how can the universe just happened to be there by itself, if there's not a director in the back who control it and make everthinq falls in the riqht spot and place, for example, every stars and planets has it's own path and won't conflict with other and was keep in several distance, how can everthinq just happened so fine like there's a system in this universe if there's no director in the back who control it. secientist found that it was the physics and the law of universe that mkae it work that way, but isn't physics and the law of universe is the law and way of qod. think about it, if nobody make and control the amusement park, how can everythinq work so properly in the amusement park, the rollercoaster won't drop and runs its way, because people make it that way, so there's a person who make the amusement park and control it that way, just like there's a qod who make and direct the universe so thinqs and planets in the universe won't corrupt with each other, isn't it even harder for atiest to believe there's nobody direct the universe and it just happened to be by itself.|||Which god are you talking about?
I suppose it is possible that *a* god made the universe, but your arguments are based on lack of knowledge about how things came to be, not knowledge, and are essentially just begging the question.
However, from what we know about the universe, if a god did create it, it certainly was not the primitive, mythological god of the Bible. If you define the god of the Bible as he is described through his creative acts in the Bible and by the veracity of the biblical cosmos, then what the universe shows is that biblical god is just a fiction created by the minds of an ancient, ignorant, superstitious people.
Here's why.
According to Ecclesiastes 1:5 the sun actually goes around the earth--as, of course, it must, since, according to Ps 93:1, Ps 96:10, and 1 Chr 16:30, the earth does not move. And the earth cannot move because, according to 1 Samuel 2:8 and Ps 75:3, it is placed on pillars. And because it is placed on pillars, it has an underside and an upper side, as confirmed by Isaiah 40:22 which indicates that the earth is a flat disk.
(If earth were a sphere it would not have an under side and an upper side. The Hebrew word translated as "circle" in Isaiah 40:22 is chuwg, which means "circle" not "sphere." Strong's Concordance: "circle"..."describe a circle." Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament: "Circle...the earth conceived as a disc, Is 40:22." Hebrew-Aramaic and English Lexicon of the Old Testament: "draw round, make a circle." If a sphere were meant, the Hebrew word duwr would have been used.)
Since the biblical earth is flat, it has an underside and under the earth is the abyss, which is referred to several times in the Bible. That is also what is being referred to in Job 26:7 when it says that the earth hangs over nothing. Job 26:7 implies that the earth has an upper side and an underside, which the actual earth does not have. (The original Hebrew word translated as "upon" in that passage in the KJV also means "over.") The actual sphere of the earth in space is not "suspended' or "hanging" "over" or "upon" nothing. It is orbiting the sun at 66,700 miles per hour.
There are several other verses in the Bible indicating the earth is flat. Nebuchadnezzar's vision in Dan 4:10-11 clearly indicates the earth is flat (if it were not flat the tree could not be seen from all the earth), and Dan 2:28 states that the visions of Nebuchadnezzar are from God. If the biblical god says the biblical earth is flat, it must be flat.
The original Hebrew word translated as firmament is raqiya. That is a noun derived from the Hebrew word raqa, which is a verb meaning "to beat out." That term is used in the bible in reference to beating out metal into plates or expanses of the metal (as in Exodus 39:3). So raqiya, as a noun, would literally mean "that which is beaten out."
The idea is that the firmament, or sky, is a solid, beaten out expanse or vault set on the rim of the flat disk of the earth. The firmament holds back the waters that are above the firmament, as stated in Genesis. If the firmament were not solid, it could not hold back the waters.
This understanding is confirmed in Job 37:18, which states:
"Can you beat out the vault of the skies as he does,
hard as a mirror of cast metal?" (New English Bible. .)
There, the Hebrew word translated as "beat out" (or "spread out" in other versions) is, as noted above, raqa.
Also, the stars in the biblical cosmos are just lights set in the firmament. As mere lights in the sky, they will fall to the earth in the Last Days (Matt 24:29), something that is ridiculous considering the actual stars are other suns and many times larger than the earth.
Some might say that the language of such things is just poetic allusion. If that is so, how does one determine what is allusion and what is not? Even if it is poetry, that does not mean that it cannot reflect what the writers of the Bible actually believed. And if the Bible is the word of god and god does not lie, would he make statements that are not factual even if they are in the form of poetry? Moreover, the above descriptions provide a coherent, structurally consistent view of the biblical cosmos and that view is consistent throughout the whole Bible.
So, if god is not a liar, and the Bible is god's word, then the present, modern-day view of the cosmos is totally wrong.
On the other hand, if one fully accepts the modern, present-day view of the cosmos as factual, then one would have to conclude that either god is a liar or the Bible is not the word of god.|||It's called gravity. I advise you to take physics.
The laws of nature are God. No magic; just logic.
Saying God is nature is somewhat logical, but some sort of intelligent force (which requires thought) only serves to add another question.|||So how come god can "just be there"
Doesn't he need a creator|||Sort of like a tornado; "God" doesn't make tornadoes, tornadoes are the result of the convergences of atmospheric phenomenon.... The Universe is the same in the fact that it is the convergences of astronomical phenomenon...|||and all the while, I thought we are here because of Natures mistakes.
Thanks for clarifying|||Everything only seems like it's in the "right place" because you're putting that validation on it. Btw, the Milky Way is on a collision course with the Andromeda galaxy...so why do you say "every stars and planets has it's own path and won't conflict with each other", when it's obviously not true.
Also, the sun is due to expand and destroy at least mars and venus and kill all remaining life on earth in about 4 billion years, so how's that for "ordered"?
Seriously, learn science. Kthx bye.|||I believe the universe IS God.|||The universe came into being so it had to have a cause. The beginning of the universe was the beginning of space, matter, energy and time. The cause (creator) had to exist before and outside of space and time.
There has to be a first cause (God) that has always existed; otherwise, nothing would exist. Anything that comes into being is an effect that has to have a cause. But the first effect has to have a cause that was never an effect. The first cause is called God.|||Don't the God responsible for evil things?
Didn't he made people to do evil? If not is it beyond the law?
Worst and hateful things are also made by the God.
The creator of angry gets angry? Funny. I found it in Bible and also in Qur'an. Isn't it?
e.g
Deuteronomy 1:34
When the LORD heard what you said, he was angry and solemnly swore
Quran 1:7
those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray.
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